A boattail design with polymer tip delivers extreme long-range performance and match-grade accuracy for hunters looking to stretch their distances. Leaving the barrel at 3150 fps with 3,084 ft.-lbs. JD338 _____ Speed sells but Accuracy kills. It works great. 280 Ackley 162 gr ELD-X ® Precision Hunter ® Item #85586 | 20/Box . As a result, the Berger bullet delivers more downrange energy and flatter trajectories than comparable hunting bullets. 60.0 grs RL 22 should get you where you want to be with 3000 fps and excellent accuracy and case life. ... but if you don’t reload you’re stuck with whatever you can find that shoots the best. While it is a fine cartridge, the article focused on mass-produced rounds, not wild cats which comprise a very small percentage of the market. Great care has been given by Hornady engineers to develop superior, match­-accurate hunting loads that allow the ELD­-X ® bullet to achieve its maximum ballistic potential.. Propellants used in the Precision Hunter … Nosler 140-grain E-TipNosler’s E-Tip bullet consists of a solid copper, lead-free construction that offers hunters maximum penetration and 95 percent or better weight retention. The 162-grain bullet leaves the muzzle at close to 2900 fps with 2,921 ft.-lbs. Even so, the .280 Ackley Improved is not as fast as the 7mm Remington Magnum, as a few of that cartridge’s avid supporters would have us believe. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Reactions: Hand Skills. I don't reload, so which factory bullets should I try to find? 150 gr Core Lokt's & 140 Accubonds have worked best for me on WT's & Axis. Of course our costal blacktails are quite a bit smaller than a good whitetail and offer less resistance, which is what causes expansion. Have an older Remington 700 stamped 280 Remington. Thread starter Butte Sink; Start date Sep 1, 2019; 1; 2; Next. JD338 _____ Speed sells but Accuracy kills. I helped him get the loads worked up for it using Nosler brass, Accubonds, Rel 22 and the Fed210 caps The vels were extraordinary stable and accuracy was excellent. It can’t provide the best velocities with the heaviest bullets in its caliber, and heavy for caliber bullets are what make 7mm’s so effective. I use 63.0 grains of Retumbo with a 168 grain Hunting VLD from Berger and have taken game with this also with excellent results. Butte Sink. In essence, the .280 represents the best of both worlds in a .30-06-sized case, as the .280 is essentially a necked-up .270, but the .280's shoulder was moved forward about .050 inch to prevent the possibility of a minimum-spec .280 cartridge chambering in a maximum-spec .270 chamber. Federal Premium 168-grain Berger Hybrid Hunter Featuring a low-drag, match-style bullet with a hybrid hunting design, Federal’s 168-grain Berger Hybrid Hunter is a long-range hunter’s dream. Rem Ammo .280 rem. I had no luck with this bullet with IMR 4350, and it may have been an issue of bullet jump. It's been my experience that Hodgdon's 4831 is too slow for the 140 grain bullets in 280 AI. I tested AA3100, RL19, RL22, H4831, IMR4831, IMR4350. RockDoc Thanks for the input... have you shot a deer with these yet? my 77V just loves Hornady 154 gr spire point with 54.5 gr. case, Fed. February 27, 2020 By Joseph von Benedikt. After fire forming, follow load data for the .280 Ackley Improved. … ... Powders that have worked for me with … bullet..... 3150 f.p.s. Mentored through late summer and early fall by friend, writer, and.280 AI aficionado Chub Eastman (who has, last I heard, 18 one-shot kills to the credit of his.280 AI), I developed a fantastic handload for the Nesika. Designed with a Heat Shield tip to prevent melting and to ensure the highest in-class BC over its entire trajectory, the ELD-X performs well at long or close range, giving hunters a terminally effective bullet no matter the distance. Privacy Policy   •   Contact Us   •   Warnings   •   FAQs   •  © 2020 National Rifle Association of America, Remington Model 700 American Hunter Rifle Project, Women On Target® Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Ambassadors, NRA Outstanding Achievement Youth Award Presented by Brownells, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Large Mountain Lion Spotted Outside Dallas, Head to Head: .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield, Head to Head: .444 Marlin vs. .45-70 Government, 2020 National Rifle Association of America. Up here (Northern New York- Adirondack Mts. 150 gr. Share this post. The .280 Ackley Improved is—you guessed it—the .280 Remington with the taper removed and the shoulder angle revised to 40 degrees. I tested AA3100, RL19, RL22, H4831, IMR4831, IMR4350. The ELD-X bullet is a streamlined boattail design with a well-constructed AMP jacket that won’t come apart on the toughest of big-game animals. Killing a big bull at a steep quartering angle takes a very good cartridge topped by a tough, deep-penetrating bullet. That said, Upstate made a very good point: Factory ammo selection and availability is much better with 7mm RM. .280 Remington 120 gr. Really hard to beat a Nosler Partition or possibly one of the new bonded bullets. I suggest the 7RM because everyone carries the ammunition. 280 Remington. I’ve seen the ELD-X work remarkably well on every species from large-bodied mule deer to British Columbia mountain goats and massive black bears, at distances from 8 to 650 yards. The.280 AI is similar, with 140 grain, 150 grain, and 162 grain bullets being the basically only choices at this time in factory ammo for the cartridge. Ackley after he added a 40-degree shoulder to Fred Huntington’s .280 RCBS Improved. We carry 280 Ackley ammo from top brand ammo manufacturers such as Federal and others. He killed the elk at 537 yards with one shot. I use a 168grain Hornady. Mentored through late summer and early fall by friend, writer, and .280 AI aficionado Chub Eastman (who has, last I heard, 18 one-shot kills to the credit of his .280 AI), I developed a fantastic handload for the Nesika. Due to the monometal construction, the 140-grain E-Tip is lighter than comparable lead-core bullets but still delivers a whopping 3050 fps and 2,904 ft.-lbs. The 150-grain Barnes TTSX bullet loaded over 59 grains of Alliant Reloder 19 exits the muzzle at 3,061 fps. At the price of more recoil and a lot less barrel life, the 6.5-284 does everything the … Go with a 7mm SAUM. In fact, the tight bore barrels dimensionally speaking produces the best accuracy but not the best velocity. Ya just gotta love the 280 AI. 6.5-284 Norma. box; nosler.com. with the 150's and imr7828 and r-19 are about 100fps slower step up to the 170gr and imr 4350 4831 7828 and r-22 give the highest vel. It has mostly been a safe queen over the years so I'd like to get her some excercise.. Hey guys. your 280 AI will handle 160 to 180 grain bullets. Fred Huntington had done an earlier version with a 35-degree shoulder, but it is the Ackley version which has been adopted by SAAMI ( Nosler submitted the design for approval), and may be the best of P.O. Top . Loads listed below shoot one-hole groups in my 280's. bullet..... 3000 f.p.s. A forum community dedicated to Ruger firearm owners and enthusiasts. For larger game animal applications, Nosler also offers the 140-grain bullet in the .280 Ackley AccuBond variant. Here’s a look at the best factory loads currently available for the .280 Ackley Improved. I am the limiting factor. It doesn’t hurt that premium big-game rifles, like Kimber’s Mountain Ascent, are chambered in the mighty .280 AI and have gained a cult-like following among serious mountain hunters. In case there is a problem with the 338, the 280 AI will be a good back up. Nosler Ammo 280 Remington 140 Grain Ballistic Tip 20 Rounds [40073] View Out. Top . Rather ingenious, Ackley’s cartridge delivers roughly 300 fps more than Remington’s factory SAAMI-spec .280 load, thanks to a chamber with less body taper and a steeper 40-degree shoulder. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Next Last. The boattail design and streamlined tip also provide impressive accuracy, making it an ideal fit for deer, antelope and hogs. I would love your rifle. It works great. Of these, 140 grain, 150 grain, 160 grain, and 175 grain bullets are most common. I won't be back until later tonite, but I will check the red book and let you know what history I have. Good luck. I'm thinking about hunting with my No.1 in 280 rem some this year. The 7mm-08 AI? RL 19 & a 140 gr bullet is a combination worth pursuing. Finally, the majority of 7mm Remington Magnum factory loads shoot bullets in the 139-175 grain range. I have had exceptional luck with a 280 AI with 9T using the 175g Nosler long range but no … I live in CA and I recently had a .280 AI put together knowing that it would never see lead. ... LJ I agree with the gentleman that asked why the 280 AI was included in 7 mm shootout? I have loaded a lot of H4831SC & RL22 and like what … Made in Finland, Vihtavuori gun powders are renowned for quality. Accuracy and terminal performance are the cornerstones of Hornady ® Precision Hunter ® factory loaded ammunition. With equal barrel lengths, the Ackley Improved version gets you about 100 additional fps of velocity with a 140-grain bullet and a 24-inch barrel. Try the 6.5 PRC. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. 150 gr Core Lokt's & 140 Accubonds have worked best for me on WT's & Axis. But,I have and use a lot of RL19 in the 280 Rem and the Ackley version. Previously the .280 AI required that a shooter make the cases and handload the ammo. “Ask yourself if 3500 fps (sometimes) with a 140-grain bullet in a necked-down 8mm Remington belted case is all that much better than 3300 fps from the ’06-sized 280 Remington Improved,’” he wrote. All things, including barrel length and the chamber pressure to which the two are loaded being equal, the.280 Ackley Improved is about 100 fps faster with all bullet weights than the standard.280 Remington. I had 2 Borden built 280 AI`s and also chose the 140 weight, the powders in both rifles that shot best was N165. The .280 is actually a 7mm and uses highly efficient .284 bullets. I know you said factory, but just giving a comparison. Nosler 140-grain Ballistic TipFeaturing a lead-alloy core with polymer tip to assist in rapid expansion, Nosler’s 140-grain Ballistic Tip is highly accurate, long-range capable and extremely lethal at various ranges. This load gives me right around 3050 fps out of a 26" Pac Nor Super match grade barrel with 3 grooves and a 1:9" twist. I would stay under 500 yards with it though. I just bought a .280 Rem mod 7600 for my son for Christmas this year (used) the serial numbers say its a 1988 vintage. I like the .280 AND the .280 Ackley ! Call me old school but have always liked H4831 in my 06 based rifles. They claim that this bullet is very soft and still penetrates with massive expansion characteristics. What the 280 AI does is get danged close to a 7mm mag in terms of velocity without the use of a belted case and with less powder, i.e., more efficient, similar trajectory with less recoil. It shoots Hornady Precision Hunter extremely well. Use a similar load in both my 7-06 AI's, with results that I am satisfied with. IMR 4831 and H 4350 arent bad either. Select a light load of a relatively fast powder (IMR4895 is great) from the standard .280 Remington data. Nosler also factory produces both a 140 gr. This … The 7mm/.284-inch bore diameter is considered—along with the uber-American .30 caliber—to be one of the best all-around choices for a big-game hunter who wants just one rifle. Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:13 pm . The bullet is tipped with a polycarbonate tip which rapidly drives back forcing the thin jacket to expand and fragment. 84 Posts . My experience has been at under 200 yds with shots, generally, right behhind the front leg and they tend to go in, expand a bit, and go out the other side. Below are average velocities for the .280 Improved and I say average because rifles are individuals. The .280 Improved has been one of our best sellers because they work extremely well. of energy, and retains between 85 to 90 percent of its weight on target, leaving behind large wound cavities and providing deep penetration. Run with the 270 WSM or 270 Wby. 280 Remington. Unless you are really recoil shy, a muzzle brake is not necessary on a .280 Improved. I'm planning on 168 bergers, just dont know where to start. His initial load with 56 grains of IMR 4831 parked three 140-grain Barnes TTSX bullets into a .5” group. 280 Remington. Improved Cartridges Explained One of the better groups shot from the author’s custom .280 AI. yes i totally agree with that statement, and im a huge fan of the .280. with that said though the .280 has a lot of problems as well.... namely the .270win and the 30-06. toss in the 7mag and its pretty tough competition. Discussion Starter • #1 • Dec 16, 2011. Feb 5, 2014 #5 T. TLD338 Well-Known Member. MSRP: $35.45 per 20-rnd. I save the 160s and 175s for the 7 Rem mag. 28 Nosler Brass.280 Remington Brass.280 Ackley Improved Brass 7mm Rem Mag Brass 7mm Rem Ultra Mag Brass 7mm Rem SAUM Brass 7mm Shooting Times … I don't want the speed if I have to use RL or other less temp stable powder, because I hunt in many different areas with vastly different temps. I have a 7MM Rem Mag in a Ruger #1. Accubond .280 Ackley factory-loaded ammunition. J E CUSTOM . quite a bit and I have found that Retumbo works very well in your bullet weight range. 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